Tenant Threatens to Smear Feces: AITA for Pushing Eviction & Installing Cameras?

AITA for trying to evict my subtenant after she threatened to smear feces in the bathroom? The situation escalates as tensions rise.

Stephanie

Published in Interesting
16 Jul 2025

Tenant Threatens to Smear Feces: AITA for Pushing Eviction & Installing Cameras?

A 28-year-old tenant tried to do the boring, legal thing, serve a 30-day notice, and keep the peace in a shared LA condo. Instead, it turned into a full-on horror-movie vibe, complete with threats, a bathroom note about “smearing feces,” and a camera setup that may have been aimed at everyone who dared to use the upstairs bathroom.

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OP is the only one on the lease, but she sublets rooms to Emily and Naomi. Naomi, in Room A, has been late and refuses to pay September rent and utilities, claiming OP must “prove” bills even though she’s been providing them. Then during a showing, OP finds a mirror note threatening chaos, and later gets hit with a taunting email about “tenant rights,” right as OP is about to leave town for 10 days.

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And now OP has to decide whether eviction is the move, or whether Naomi is baiting her into messing up the timeline.

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All names are fake. I rent a 3-bedroom condo in LA.

I’m the only one on the lease and my landlord (Tilly) knows I sublet the other rooms. My two roommates are Emily and Naomi.

Naomi rents Room A for $1,400 plus utilities under a signed sublease. From the start she was difficult: always late on bills/always needing to be chased down.

On August 15, I served her a 30-day notice to vacate (deadline Sept 15). I texted it, emailed it, mailed it, and taped a copy to her door with proof/took photos etc.

Since then, Naomi has refused to pay September rent or her share of utilities. She claims she won’t pay until I show her the bills even though I always do and also left a hard copy of the bill at her door.

She hasn’t touched it. When she moved in, I said as a courtesy that I’d tell guests to use my upstairs bathroom so hers felt private.

But it’s *NOT* in her sublease (it only lists Room A) and the agreement says oral promises aren’t binding. Now she insists I can’t show new tenants “her” bathroom.

When I tried, she started yelling. Two days ago I opened the bathroom door during a showing and found a note taped to the mirror threatening to smear feces everywhere upon move out if I entered.

She also set up a camera with a note saying, “Smile b***h! I just caught you violating my tenant rights.” (Earlier that day our plumber had innocently used that bathroom without realizing there was a camera in there.

Idk if it was on.) I reminded her the next day via email that she owes rent and is supposed to leave by Sept 15. She replied, “Your notice was invalid and ignored.

I’d tell you why but I get satisfaction out of watching you get it wrong. The state of California doesn’t take kindly to landlords violating tenants’ rights.

Good luck.” I’ve been encouraged to serve her with a 3-Day Notice to Pay Rent or Quit, but she taunts me and acts like nothing applies to her. I’m about to leave town for work for 10 days starting Monday, so the timing is awful.

I bought security cameras to place in common areas (kitchen, living room, garage) to protect the property since she’s made threats, but I worry she’ll destroy them or try to sue me? I just want her gone.

Emily is moving out and I already approved a new tenant for that room starting Sept 15, but the thought of Naomi staying is unbearable, especially when a new tenant is moving in. AITA for pushing this eviction hard and wanting to install cameras in the common areas while I’m away?

Threats of extreme behavior, such as the one described, often signal deeper psychological distress that can affect not only the individual but also those around them. It is essential to recognize that such behaviors are frequently not just random acts of aggression but rather manifestations of underlying issues that need to be addressed.

When individuals feel cornered or trapped in their circumstances, they may resort to aggressive behaviors as a means of regaining control over their lives. This reaction can be particularly pronounced in stressful living situations, where the stakes are high and emotions run deep. Understanding this dynamic is crucial for both tenants and landlords to navigate such conflicts effectively, fostering an environment where open communication and empathy can thrive.

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Research published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology indicates that aggression often surfaces in response to perceived threats.

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That’s when Naomi’s “courtesy” bathroom arrangement turned into a boundary fight, because it’s not even in her sublease for Room A.

Psychological research emphasizes that establishing expectations, such as payment deadlines and acceptable behavior, can prevent misunderstandings and create a more harmonious atmosphere. When everyone knows what is expected of them, the likelihood of disputes diminishes significantly.

Landlords should have a written agreement that outlines these boundaries, which serves as a crucial reference point during disputes. This document can clarify responsibilities and rights, ensuring that both parties are on the same page. Additionally, having a formal agreement can help to reinforce accountability, as it provides a tangible reminder of the commitments made.

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Documentation of problematic behavior can also protect landlords legally in various ways. Keeping detailed records of incidents not only assists in managing tenant relationships but also helps clarify the situation if eviction becomes necessary.

In order to effectively document these issues, utilizing a simple log to track dates, incidents, and communications can be an effective strategy. This log should include specifics such as the nature of the complaint, responses given, and any actions taken. By maintaining this organized record, landlords can ensure that they are well-prepared to defend their actions, should the need for legal proceedings arise. Overall, diligent documentation is a proactive measure that can ultimately save landlords time, money, and stress.

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The threats escalated fast after OP opened the bathroom during a showing and saw the note about smearing feces if she entered.

Also, this feels like the couple in the AITA about playing a slot machine game on a tablet, where the conflict is over who gets to enjoy it.

De-escalation Techniques

De-escalation strategies can be particularly effective in managing tense situations that arise in various contexts, especially in landlord-tenant relationships. This approach not only aids in understanding the other party's perspective but also fosters trust.

By acknowledging the tenant's feelings and offering to discuss grievances openly, landlords can create an atmosphere of cooperation and understanding. This proactive communication encourages tenants to express their concerns more freely, leading to effective problem-solving. Furthermore, when landlords demonstrate empathy, it often leads to a more harmonious living situation, reducing the likelihood of future conflicts. Overall, implementing these de-escalation strategies can transform potential confrontations into constructive dialogues.

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Encouraging open dialogue about grievances can lead to better understanding and resolution in various contexts, particularly in landlord-tenant relationships. When both parties feel heard, it fosters an environment of trust and cooperation. Research shows that mediation techniques, such as facilitated discussions, can significantly help both parties reach a mutually acceptable solution, ultimately benefiting everyone involved.

By allowing tenants to express their concerns in a safe and supportive setting, landlords can proactively address issues before they escalate into more significant conflicts. This approach not only enhances communication but also cultivates a sense of community. When grievances are handled effectively, it can lead to improved relationships and a more harmonious living environment. Therefore, prioritizing open dialogue is crucial for maintaining a positive and constructive interaction between landlords and tenants.